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Lakshmi Tatma’s Press Conference

She grabbed my heart as soon as I saw Lakshmi and learned her story. I’ve written of her before and have closely followed her progress as doctors in India performed stunning surgical operations to perfect her body. She was born with a parasitic twin, having four arms and four legs. The outcome of her surgery last week exceeded the doctor’s expectations.

We joined the world and prayed.

Yesterday, her family held a press conference. No doubt relieved, but obviously ill-at-ease her family is pictured here.

From CNN — Two-year-old Lakshmi Tatma, an Indian toddler born with four arms and four legs, made her first public appearance Tuesday, a week after surgeons in India successfully removed her additional limbs.

 

 

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Doctors said Lakshmi was recovering well as she appeared Tuesday at a news conference.

 

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From CNN

Lakshmi, wearing a plaster cast on her legs to keep her feet up and her legs together to help her wounds heal, was carried into a news conference Tuesday as her doctors announced she was being released from intensive care.

“She is coping very well,” lead surgeon Dr. Sharan Patil said. “She is being carried around by her mother and her father.”

Several of her doctors, all of them smiling, described her recovery over the past week “very steady and good progress,” one saying she is “out of the woods” as far as serious medical issues are concerned. Video Watch the recovering little girl meet the media »

From the Associated Press

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  • Nov. 13: 1 Father Shambhu, right, holds his daughter Lakshmi as Dr. Sharan Patil, left, looks on during a press conference at Sparsha Hospital in Banglore, India. Swathed in blankets and lying on her father’s lap, Lakshmi, appeared before reporters without the extra limbs which had led some people in her rural village to revere her as an incarnation of the four-armed goddess she was named after.
  • Nov. 13: Shambhu, center, holds his daughter Lakshmi during a press conference at Sparsha Hospital in Banglore, India.
  • Nov. 13: Shambhu, right, holds his daughter Lakshmi as her mother Poonam, left, looks on during a press conference at Sparsha Hospital in Banglore, India.
  • Nov. 13: Shambhu, right, holds his daughter Lakshmi as her mother Poonam, left, looks on during a press conference at Sparsha Hospital in Banglore, India

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By Shirley Buxton

Still full of life and ready to be on the move, Shirley at 83 years old feels blessed to have lots of energy and to be full of optimism. She was married to Jerry for 63 years, and grieves yet at his death in August of 2019. They have 4 children, 13 grandchildren and 11 great-grandchildren...all beautiful and highly intelligent--of course. :)

17 replies on “Lakshmi Tatma’s Press Conference”

Shirley,

I’m not really going to start arguing about these people’s work and how if it was really related to their belief in God, because I do not intend to research those facts.

I will however briefly talk about the theory that Judas could have been, in fact, a very good actor instead of an ‘evil’ traitor. According to some people (and the ‘Gospel of Judas’, read http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12186080/ ), Judas was actually acting on Jesus’ request, and everything went according to his plan.

So which text do you believe? The one that just happens to have been popularized first, or the one that was more recently uncovered?

Sorry about the long reply time, as everyone I have a busy life 🙂

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Lucas–

We agree again: People are defined by their actions. Just saying the words, “I believe in God” is not enough. Satan believes in God, but that does not save him.

Of course there are evil men who believe in God. The list would be longer than would be a list of good people, I fear. The Bible itself makes such a suggestion:

Matthew 7:13-14 “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

And then there was Judas–one of Jesus’ own apostles–who betrayed his Christ. Believe me I have not forgotten such facts, but that was not the gist of our conversation–at least as I understood it.

I provided the list in response to your statement:

“I’m sure we could go on and on here, I’m probably not the first atheist to comment on your blog and probably not the last one. You’re probably a nice person, but maybe you should think about what I’m saying in a logical open-minded way. “

Such a list must assuredly reflect logical and open-minded people.

One more small thing if you have time, regarding the following statement you made:

“All the people you mention did great things, but those things had little or nothing to do with the fact that they were religious.”

How do you know that?

I do wish you well.

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That list is arguable at best.

Albert Einstein: “It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.”

If I really wanted to, I could probably find references to a good number in that list which aren’t really religious, or were misquoted (like Einstein), or possibly would have been avowed atheists if they had lived today, instead of having been born in a time where being an atheist meant death or rejection from all.

But let me ask you a question… You come up with a nice list of famous people that were religious or believed in god… But you seem to only put “nice” people in there.

You might have honestly forgot about the list of those famous murderers and criminals who were also religious and believed in god, or you might consciousely choose to ignore them – those who use God for their own twisted purposes and specifically say they do it in His name!

So maybe you want to add Jack the Ripper to your list? (First one I could find without deeper research – this isn’t my area of expertise).

People aren’t defined by their belief in god. They are defined by their actions. All the people you mention did great things, but those things had little or nothing to do with the fact that they were religious.

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Hello, Lucas:

Well, we have one thing in common: you think I might be a nice person. And you’re probably right about that–most of the time, but certainly not all the time. Quite often I wish I were nicer, more intelligent, better read, and closer to perfect.

I have not read all his works, but I am familiar with Richard Dawkins.

Are you familiar with these…a list of Nobel Laureates who believe in God? The list is from this site.

ART I. Nobel Scientists (20-21 Century)
Albert Einstein Nobel Laureate in Physics Jewish
Max Planck Nobel Laureate in Physics Protestant
Erwin Schrodinger Nobel Laureate in Physics Catholic
Werner Heisenberg Nobel Laureate in Physics Lutheran
Robert Millikan Nobel Laureate in Physics probably Congregationalist
Charles Hard Townes Nobel Laureate in Physics United Church of Christ (raised Baptist)
Arthur Schawlow Nobel Laureate in Physics Methodist
William D. Phillips Nobel Laureate in Physics Methodist
William H. Bragg Nobel Laureate in Physics Anglican
Guglielmo Marconi Nobel Laureate in Physics Catholic and Anglican
Arthur Compton Nobel Laureate in Physics Presbyterian
Arno Penzias Nobel Laureate in Physics Jewish
Nevill Mott Nobel Laureate in Physics Anglican
Isidor Isaac Rabi Nobel Laureate in Physics Jewish
Abdus Salam Nobel Laureate in Physics Muslim
Antony Hewish Nobel Laureate in Physics Christian (denomination?)
Joseph H. Taylor, Jr. Nobel Laureate in Physics Quaker
Alexis Carrel Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Catholic
John Eccles Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Catholic
Joseph Murray Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Catholic
Ernst Chain Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Jewish
George Wald Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Jewish
Ronald Ross Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Christian (denomination?)
Derek Barton Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Christian (denomination?)
Christian Anfinsen Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Jewish
Walter Kohn Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Jewish
Richard Smalley Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Christian (denomination?)
PART II. Nobel Writers (20-21 Century)
T.S. Eliot Nobel Laureate in Literature Anglo-Catholic (Anglican)
Rudyard Kipling Nobel Laureate in Literature Anglican
Alexander Solzhenitsyn Nobel Laureate in Literature Russian Orthodox
François Mauriac Nobel Laureate in Literature Catholic
Hermann Hesse Nobel Laureate in Literature Christian; Buddhist?
Winston Churchill Nobel Laureate in Literature Anglican
Jean-Paul Sartre Nobel Laureate in Literature Lutheran; Freudian; Marxist; atheist; Messianic Jew
Sigrid Undset Nobel Laureate in Literature Catholic (previously Lutheran)
Rabindranath Tagore Nobel Laureate in Literature Hindu
Rudolf Eucken Nobel Laureate in Literature Christian (denomination?)
Isaac Singer Nobel Laureate in Literature Jewish
PART III. Nobel Peace Laureates (20-21 Century)
Albert Schweitzer Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Lutheran
Jimmy Carter Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Baptist (former Southern Baptist)
Theodore Roosevelt Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Dutch Reformed; Episcopalian
Woodrow Wilson Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Presbyterian
Frederik de Klerk Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Dutch Reformed
Nelson Mandela Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Christian (denomination?)
Kim Dae-Jung Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Catholic
Dag Hammarskjold Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Christian (denomination?)
Martin Luther King, Jr. Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Baptist
Adolfo Perez Esquivel Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Catholic
Desmond Tutu Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Anglican
John R. Mott Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Methodist
Part IV. Founders of Modern Science (16-21 Century)
Isaac Newton Founder of Classical Physics and Infinitesimal Calculus Anglican (rejected Trinitarianism, i.e., Athanasianism;
believed in the Arianism of the Primitive Church)
Galileo Galilei Founder of Experimental Physics Catholic
Nicolaus Copernicus Founder of Heliocentric Cosmology Catholic (priest)
Johannes Kepler Founder of Physical Astronomy and Modern Optics Lutheran
Francis Bacon Founder of the Scientific Inductive Method Anglican
René Descartes Founder of Analytical Geometry and Modern Philosophy Catholic
Blaise Pascal Founder of Hydrostatics, Hydrodynamics,
and the Theory of Probabilities Jansenist
Michael Faraday Founder of Electronics and Electro-Magnetics Sandemanian
James Clerk Maxwell Founder of Statistical Thermodynamics Presbyterian; Anglican; Baptist
Lord Kelvin Founder of Thermodynamics and Energetics Anglican
Robert Boyle Founder of Modern Chemistry Anglican
William Harvey Founder of Modern Medicine Anglican (nominal)
John Ray Founder of Modern Biology and Natural History Calvinist (denomination?)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz German Mathematician and Philosopher,
Founder of Infinitesimal Calculus Lutheran
Charles Darwin Founder of the Theory of Evolution Anglican (nominal); Unitarian
Ernst Haeckel German Biologist,
the Most Influential Evolutionist in Continental Europe
Thomas H. Huxley English Biologist and Evolutionist,
Famous As “Darwin’s Bulldog”
Joseph J. Thomson Nobel Laureate in Physics, Discoverer of the Electron,
Founder of Atomic Physics Anglican
Louis Pasteur Founder of Microbiology and Immunology Catholic
Part V. Great Philosophers (17-21 Century)
Immanuel Kant One of the Greatest Philosophers
in the History of Western Philosophy Lutheran
Jean-Jacques Rousseau Founder of Modern Deism born Protestant;
converted as a teen to Catholic
Voltaire French Philosopher and Historian,
One of the Most Influential Thinkers of the Enlightenment raised in Jansenism
David Hume Scottish Empiricist Philosopher, Historian, and Economist,
Founder of Modern Skepticism Church of Scotland (Presbyterian)
Spinoza Dutch-Jewish Philosopher,
the Chief Exponent of Modern Rationalism Judaism; later pantheism/deism
Giordano Bruno Italian Philosopher, Astronomer, and Mathematician,
Founder of the Theory of the Infinite Universe Catholic
George Berkeley Irish Philosopher and Mathematician, Founder of Modern Idealism,
Famous as “The Precursor of Mach and Einstein” Anglican
John Stuart Mill English Philosopher and Economist,
the Major Exponent of Utilitarianism agnostic; Utilitarian
Richard Swinburne Oxford Professor of Philosophy,
One of the Most Influential Theistic Philosophers
PART VI. Other Religious Nobelists
60 more Nobel Prize winners are listed
(32 scientists, 17 writers, 11 Nobel Nobel Peace Laureates)
PART VII. Nobelists, Philosophers, and Scientists on Jesus
Quotes by 16 individuals about their beliefs about Jesus
– Alexis Carrel
– Albert Einstein
– Arthur Compton
– Robert Millikan
– Francois Mauriac
– Sigrid Undset
– T.S. Eliot
– Mother Theresa
– Albert Schweitzer
– Theodore Roosevelt
– Frederik de Klerk
– John R. Mott
– Kim Dae-Jung
– Martin Luther King, Jr.
– Jimmy Carter
– Blaise Pascal

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So in the beginning, God creates a Perfect World for Adam and Eve. He creates them, being all-knowing and all-powerful, knowing exactly how they would act and what they would do.

In the middle of this Perfect World, He puts a tree and tells Adam and Eve, “Don’t eat from that tree!”. But next to the tree He places a snake that coerces innocent Eve (who has no clue what’s going on and was just created out of nothingness) into doing just that, eat a fruit from a tree. A tree that, again, HE CREATED. As far as I’ve understood from scriptures, Adam and Eve weren’t given the gift of Free Will until they actually bit the fruit… So how could they have chosen to dissobey God if they didn’t have the Free Will to do so?

Sounds like a set-up to me. Him appearing out of nowhere after Eve had bitten in the forbidden fruit and going “AH-HA! I told you not to eat it, but I knew you would. So you and all humanity will suffer atrocious lives for eternity, because I decided you would, and you can’t do anything about it because I am God, all-powerful and all-knowing and you can’t touch me, but you still have to worship me, Gna-Gna!” tells me that God is the most evil person one could imagine.

But, my heart goes out to Lakshima’s family for loving her, and my thanks go out to the very qualified hospital personal for doing such a good job as well as the hospital’s foundation for their generosity in donating the operation money – WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD.

I’m sure we could go on and on here, I’m probably not the first atheist to comment on your blog and probably not the last one. You’re probably a nice person, but maybe you should think about what I’m saying in a logical open-minded way. Whatever I could say, it is better said by Richard Dawkins in his book, “The God Delusion”. If you’re even slightly open-minded, maybe it will be an eye opener… who knows!

The only reason I posted here was to say, clearly, God has nothing to do with Lakshima’s birth, difformities, survival, or anything else for that matter.

Cheers,
:Lucas

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Hello, Lucas.

Welcome to my blog.

Of course I can’t speak for everyone who has commented here; only for myself. In the beginning God created a perfect world and placed Adam and Eve there. Because He wanted them to serve Him out of willingness, He gave them the option to stay sinless or to disobey Him–to sin. They chose disobedience, and sin entered into the world. It’s my belief that had they remained sinless there would never have been sickness or deformities such as we see here.

I thank God–not for the terrible deformity in Lakshmi–but for loving parents, for life, for caring people and for exceptionally talented doctors who have relieved this child of such a burden.

My heart truly goes out to her and to her family.

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Let me get this straight… You all thank god for giving these parents a very deformed child, or for her surviving?

He’s the one that created her, that gave her 8 limbs and a small chance of success in a poor environment, almost making sure she would either die young or be pawned off to beg. That’s what you’re thanking god for?

Or is it for the success of the operation, which was not done by god but by very competent hospital staff?

By thanking god, you’re giving him credit that those doctors deserve, and are completely disregarding their competence and professionalism!

One way or another, there’s nothing to thank god for, but plenty to blame on him! How much hypocrisy can one religious person generate is amazing.

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Hi, David–

How are the beautiful San Bernardinos? You may not know but my home is in Crestline, but Jerry and I have been living in our motorhome in Lake Havasu City, AZ. since February. Next Sunday afternoon we’re driving to our home to stay through Thanksgiving. Yes! Can hardly wait.

Looks like we’ll have no snow, but it will be nice anyway, I’m sure.

Thanks for dropping by.

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Amazing, Rochelle, absolutely amazing. I have no medical background, but when I consider the challenges the doctors faced, it astonishes me to see her in such fine condition. God is good.

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MERVI, yes we must continue to pray for this charming child.

ANNA, yes, I believe Lakshmi and her twin were from one egg, whose division would have produced identical twins. If such an egg doesn’t completely separate the result is a Siamese twin. In this case, her parasitic (Siamese) twin died, and Lakshmi’s body actually absorbed and/or attached everything from the other child. It is reported there was no head from the parasitic twin.

It’s an amazing story. I trust and pray she continues her remarkable recovery. My heart goes out to her parents. In both the video and the current photos they look extremely ill at ease.

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This is so interesting to me. I was discussing this with a twin in our church the other day and we were pondering the whole parasitic twin and absorption thing.

If I remember right, one of the reports talked about the parasitic twin dying in the womb and Lakshmi absorbing her intestines, etc. This may be the dumb question of the comments, but were the two twins siamese twins before the other one died? I don’t remember seeing that anywhere, but almost think they would have to have been to be so cojoined.

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